God is good!
Amen!
I don’t believe Patricia. I do believe in angels and visitations but I don’t believe this. Why? DISCERNMENT.
If you didn’t see Judge Judy Friday, you missed it. Appearing on the show were two animated, angry, self-proclaimed prophetesses from Moving On Up Fellowship in Detriot, Michigan, and boy was it a cat fight.
A summarized transcript of the show reads as follows:
Judge Judy: OK. We’re here today because Beth Ann Morbley has a dispute with Mary Jane Townsend. Ms. Morbley, tell me about the cat fight, the cat fight in church over a gemstone falling from heaven. Ha.
Beth Ann: OK. It started during worship. The glory of God was falling, and in the falling fell a diamond. It fell right at our feet; we were both sitting in the front pew and I saw the diamond first.
Judge Judy: You’re saying a diamond fell from heaven? Burt, am I hearing that right?
Burt: Yes.
Judge Judy: Continue (sarcastic sigh here).
Beth Ann: OK. The diamond fell at our feet, and then I poked Mary Jane on the shoulder and said, ‘Look, there’s a diamond! God sent a diamond!’ At that point Mary Jane scooped up the diamond and began running around church screaming, ‘God send me a diamond! I’m favored! I’m blessed!’ When she stopped running, everyone in the church ran over to her and hugged her and were amazed at the diamond. From then on she was known as the head intercessor and prophetess for the church instead of me, and people began following her instead of me. It’s just not right because I saw the diamond first so evidently God wanted me to have it, not her. She stole it from me!
Mary Jane: That’s not true! I saw the diamond first–
Judge Judy: Wait your turn. Did I ask you to speak? Shut up! Ms. Morbley, this whole thing sounds ridiculous. I’ve never heard of God Almighty sending gemstones down from heaven. Did you check with anyone in the church to see if their earring had fallen off?
Beth Ann: Gemstones from heaven occur in our church often. They are signs from God that He loves us. Sometimes He even sends us angel feathers and gold dust.
Judge Judy: Baloney. Bring me the diamond. (Burt brings Judge Judy the diamond). Has this been tested?
Mary Jane: No, testing it would be doubtfulness on my part. It is a diamond; where is your faith, Judge Judy?
Judge Judy: My faith is founded on truth. Not testing this ‘diamond’ is stupidity on your part, woman! You’re walking around claiming God sent a gemstone from heaven to your church but you can’t even substantiate that claim. You’re living in deception, and you seem to like it. Is it the attention that you like? You like people fawning all over you, don’t you? That’s what this is all about, isn’t it?
Mary Jane: I’m specially anointed and people know that. I’m not going to apologize for that. You’re mocking God when you doubt my diamond’s authenticity.
Judge Judy: Burt, bring me the so-called diamond. (Burt brings her the diamond.) Well, I can tell this is a fake just by looking at it. Ridiculous. But I’m going to have this ‘diamond’ tested, Ms. Townsend, and then we’ll see who’s truly mocking God!
(Court adjourns for two hours.)
Judge Judy: We’re back! You two ladies have wasted enough of my time. The test results have shown that both of your hearts are alot harder than this ‘diamond,’ which is really cubic zirconia! You two idiots have been fighting over a fake gemstone which didn’t fall from heaven!
Mary Jane: That diamond came from heaven; those test results mean nothing. They’re just signs of unbelief.
Beth Ann: That’s right.
Judge Judy: Idiots! Both of you are idiots! And Ms. Morbley, you’re asking for the ‘diamond’ back and $105,000 in damages? What are the damages for?
Beth Ann: After the diamond fell, Mary Jane got all the attention in church and people now listen to and covet her every word. She is able to charge $100.00 for each personal prophecy that she gives now. The church members give her fancy gifts and treat her like a royal queen. She even went out to eat with the pastor two times last week. I should have gotten that favor, not her, because I saw the diamond first and she just jumped in and picked it up before me! It’s my diamond! God meant it for me!
Judge Judy: Listen, ladies! This diamond is a fake. It was tested and found to be a fake. I’m not giving either one of you a dime! Get out of my courtroom! And it’s too bad diamonds from heaven don’t fall on both your heads and wake you deceived attention-mongers up! Get out!
(Court adjourns.)
The two ladies exit the courtroom for interviews where Beth Ann holds up a box filled with ‘angel feathers.’ They look like small bird feathers, but she claims they are from angels. The crowd around her laughs, and in a vision as I watch, I see Satan himself laughing. What a con he has pulled off, using the insecurities and need for attention of two middle-aged women to mock a holy God, who does send honest signs from heaven that truly do bring Him glory. It’s a shame, a big shame.
Read this article and then watch the video beneath it. God will shut down churches that mock sin. Here we see that Randy and Paula had Joe Redner, a vile strip club owner, speak at Without Walls Church. And the video shows what kind of a man he is. Shame on Randy and Paula for this. No wonder God removed their lampstand.
Strip club king goes to church looking for votes
Hillsborough commission candidate and nonbeliever Joe Redner takes the pulpit.
By KEVIN GRAHAM
Published July 17, 2006
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[Times photo: Ken Helle]
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Joe Redner, third from right, received an invitation to speak at Without Walls International Church Sunday.
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TAMPA – It may have been the least likely place for a man who doesn’t believe in God to receive a standing ovation, but it happened Sunday morning when Joe Redner went to church.
Bishop Randy White, senior pastor at Without Walls International Church, invited the strip club owner to join him in the pulpit and talk about his campaign for the Hillsborough County Commission District 5 seat.
“All right, he’s not running for pastor. My job’s not up,” White jokingly told parishioners while introducing Redner, as their continued applause prompted Redner to stand and nod his head in thanks.
Redner said the crowd of about 4,000, and countless others watching the 11 a.m. church service on the Internet, was the largest audience he’d ever spoken to.
He talked for 10 minutes about protecting the environment, improving public transportation and reducing overcrowding in schools.
“We need adequate schools for our children. We need to protect our environment, because no one knows how long we’re going to be here,” Redner said. “I think that’s preached in the Bible.”
It’s what came next that had parishioners shouting to Redner, “Preach! Preach!” He quoted Revelation 7:3.
“Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees,” said Redner.
It surprised the congregation, but Redner said he’s no stranger to the Scriptures.
“I believe in a lot of things that are in the Bible,” Redner said, like thou shall not kill and treat others the way you want to be treated. “I just don’t believe it was divinely inspired.”
Though he does not believe in God, Redner said he prefers to call himself a humanist rather than an atheist.
“I have come to the conclusion that the loving God that is spoken of in the Bible does not exist,” he said. “I would hold my God to a higher standard.”
Without Walls is the nation’s fastest growing church, founded by White and his wife, fellow senior pastor Paula White. Bishop White has a list he calls his “10 Most Wanted,” which includes national and local celebrities he wants to save.
Rock musician Kid Rock and LaToya Jackson plus the entire Jackson family, White said are on the bishop’s list. So is Joe Redner.
“That will never happen,” Redner said.
When it came to his campaign for county commissioner, Redner talked about having already been involved in speaking out against decisions of local government leaders.
He said that the elevated portion of the Lee Roy Selmon Crosstown Expressway would add to air pollution and the money would be better spent on mass transportation.
Politicians have allowed too many new subdivisions to be built in the county without new schools to go along with them, Redner said Sunday.
As a result, students have to be bused to overcrowded schools outside of their communities.
“Development is an important part of our economy,” Redner said. “It’s a matter of smart growth, smart management.”
Sunday wasn’t the first time Redner spoke at Without Walls. He was there in 2003 to talk about the importance of voting when he ran unsuccessfully for another office.
White said it wasn’t the community that lashed out three years ago when Redner spoke, but religious leaders. Pastors sent him e-mails and called to ask how he could let Redner, who claimed last year in a federal lawsuit he is gay, speak at his church.
“I submit to them that we have forgotten that church is a hospital,” White said. “It’s not a museum for the saints.”
In 1999, when Tampa City Council took up the issue of banning nude lap dances, White mobilized his church to make 40,000 calls, telling people to attend meetings to support the ban.
It put him on opposite ends of the battlefield with Redner, Tampa’s strip club king.
White said Sunday if he had to do it again, he’d use the church’s resources elsewhere, like offering more help to the city’s homeless.
Today, White calls Redner “my dear friend.”
“Joe Redner is not a practicing politician. I like that about him,” White said. “He’s a man of integrity. He’s never lied to me.”
The two occasionally have lunch together at Sweet Tomatoes and run into one other from time to time at boxing matches.
White has not endorsed Redner, his business interests or his free-speech platform.
He said he invited him to speak to provide an open forum for a “legitimate candidate” to share his positions.
State Sen. Les Miller and Tampa City Council member Kevin White recently made stops at Without Walls to speak. White said he’s working out plans for U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris to speak to the congregation, as well.
Redner, a Democrat, is campaigning against Jim Norman, a Republican and the commission’s chairman. Norman could not be reached Sunday for comment.
Mavis Obalaka, 28, of Brandon, said she agreed with Redner’s campaign and did not think his personal life would negatively affect his ability to lead.
“The Bible says we all have sinned and come short of the glory of God,” Obalaka said. “I see myself in (Redner’s) vision.”
Lisa Marquez, 35, of Clearwater, said Redner had her vote. She said she liked his approach.
“Hey may not have religion in his life, but I like the direction he’s going in,” she said.
Kevin Graham can be reached at (813) 226-3433 or kgraham@sptimes.com.
Video of Joe Redner being preached to truthfully by a real preacher:
Brave preaching.
In January of this year, Evangelist T.B. Numnim held a week-long tent revival on the outskirts of Saltillo, Mexico: all was calm; all was bright. Today, the world braces for a possible pandemic that has schools shutting down, local events cancelled, and parents reeling: all is panicked; all is dark.
As scientists around the world scrambled to locate the flu’s derivation, all signs pointed back to Saltillo, where the first cases of swine flu were reported. On January 29, seven children and five adults were admitted into Saltillo General Hospital and quickly diagnosed with the deadly virus. A night later, six more children were admitted, including a six-month old baby. A week after that, twelve more children and three adults were diagnosed.
What each of these people had in common was the following: they all attended Apostle Prophet Evangelist T.B. Numnim’s revival meetings on the south side of town. One local who volunteered during the meetings had this to say: “Reverend T.B. preached strong; Reverend T.B. preached hard. He taught us how to generously sow seed for a financial harvest, how to tithe off our gross income, and how to believe God for great and mighty prosperity. We all thought he looked a little pale there on the last day of the meetings, but who would have known? We thought he was just worn-out from taking up so many offerings…” From this eyewitness and others, scientists have directly traced the swine flu back to Numnim, who remains in quarantine at a Dallas, TX hospital.
Reporters on the scene say the evangelist is taking things in stride, but feeling bad and a little confused as to how and why the flu originated with him. But one Dallas prophet, Ricardo Lopez, had this to say: “Judgment begins at the house of the Lord. Why did swine flu have its beginnings in T.B. Numnim? Simple: he preaches a devilish prosperity doctrine; he begs people for money; he lives high off the hog; he peddles the gospel; he manipulates people into giving big offerings; and he loves money more than the truth written in the Word of God. Swine flu indeed began in a pig, a greedy pig. This is just Holy Ghost prophetic symbolism at its finest. God’s wake up call is here, people: We must cleanse our pulpits of greed, heresy, and con-artistry. If we do not, the spiritual swine flu will infiltrate our hearts and lives, as it’s now doing in many churches around the world. It’s a time of repentance and cleansing for the Body of Christ. Can you hear the Word of the Lord? Repent, peddlers for profit! Come out of your greedy pigpens, your big mansions and limosuines, and repent! He’s given you plenty of time and plenty of warnings: repent!”
As for Mr. Numnim, who ironically claims to have three angels named Sow, Sounder, and Pink following him around, word has it that Rick Joyner will head his physical restoration process so that he can quickly continue his grunting, squealing, and oinking (selling the gospel of Jesus Christ to the naive and gullible). Lord help us.
www.pastrychef.com (edible, used for cooking)
www.indiamart.com (used for make-up, body, etc.)
www.spalook.com (used for make-up)
www.etherealbeautycosmetics.com (used for make-up)
www.globalsugarart.com
And I can go on. It’s easy to buy this stuff online. It’s not coming from the Lord, however. His gold dust is His love, His peace, His joy–which He rains down on us daily.
If these are really angel feathers the angels must be only a couple feet tall or less and look quite a bit like chickens.
One Big Reason God Shut Down Lakeland (Overturned the Tables There) and Doesn’t Want Anyone Putting Them Back Up
Good article here about how some fake preachers faked the gold dust:
http://www.openheaven.com/forums/printer_friendly_posts.asp?TID=20211
